Karlee Sunshine (Karlee Midrano) - Flat Earth: Solar Eclipse explained in 5 minutes - yet another failed FE model
Dear Karlee Midrano,
Let's review your flat Earth theory and discuss what makes sense based on real world evidence.
1. The definition of theory is "a supposition or system of ideas intended to explain something." So what you presented does qualify as theory. But now you need to go from theory to reality for it to have any meaning. Belief is not valid. The burden of proof is on you and other flat Earth advocates.
Proper verification requires observable, empirical evidence.
Here is your model...
Question to Karlee,
Since in 2017 the Vernal (Spring) Equinox occurs on March 20th, and the Autumnal (Fall) Equinox occurs on September 22nd – which is a span of 186 days – and that is not exactly half of one year (365 – 186 = 179 days), the perfect circles and movement of the Sun/Moon in your theory which predict EQUAL TIMING throughout the year; why does that not correspond to our observed reality?
The Moon is not a light source. It is a large physical sphereical body in a mutaul orbital dance with the Earth.
The Moon's proven graivational influence on the Earth, the tides, has now been supplemented with measurements Earth crust movement in synch with the Moon orbit.
What say you about this?
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/617-flat-earth-conspiracy-talking-point-destroyed-it-s-not-just-the-tides-anymore-moon-s-gravitational-pull-on-the-earth-that-changes-due-to-it-orbital-distance-variation-causes-slight-movement-in-the-earth-s-crust-has-now-been-measured
2. You have presented that the Sun and Moon are the same physical size, because their apparent angular dimension in the sky is the same. Yes, they are both about 0.5 degrees in size. But they look the same only because the Sun, which is so much bigger than the Moon, is so much farther away.
Average orbital distance from the Moon to the Earth = 238,900 miles
Average orbital distance from the Sun to the Earth = 93-million miles
That deception is due to perspective. Based on apparent angular magnitude, the following photo shows a man to be the same size as the Leaning Tower of Pisa in Italy. Same as with the Sun and Moon.
3. You have presented that the Sun and Moon circle above the flat Earth. For that to be true, you need to identify and explain by what mechanism or laws of nature the Sun and Moon don't just spin off and fly away. What is the origin of the centripetal force that holds it to circular motion?
4. Your theory depicts the Sun and Moon changing their orbital distance from their center or rotation TWICE per lunar month, which takes 29.53 days.
What is the CONSTANT force that accelerates the Sun to move into its larger orbit (it must speed up to do this),
and what is the CONSTANT force the causes the Moon to decelerate into its tighter orbit (it must slow down to do this)?
And then again, vice versa for the second half of the lunar month?
5. How does your theory account for the monthly changes in the phases of the Moon (Full, 3rd quarter, New and 1st quarter) that we all witness?
It does not.
The Moon only REFLECTS Sun light (only 12 %). It has no capacity to generate light on its own, or with the assistance of the Sun. That whole notion is child's play.
Proof of that is here:
FlatEarthSamurai - Flat Earth - Various Phases Of The Self-Luminous Moon Compilation - 07-29-2017
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/563-flatearthsamurai-flat-earth-various-phases-of-the-self-luminous-moon-compilation-07-29-2017
The Sun interchanging with the Moon's orbit twice each month produces phases of the Moon at any single point in time, to be different when viewed from alternate places on the Earth.
When the Sun's cycle is closer than the Moon, a near full moon is observed all the time, for that half of the month.
When the Sun's cycle is farther away than the Moon, a full Moon is visible all the time from somewhere on the flat Earth, accept for the very short time when the Sun passes in back of the Moon.
Unless of course you resort to that magic illumination and recharging of yours.
6. If the Sun goes behind the Moon once every month as your video shows, we should have a total solar eclipse at that point. But all of us on the Earth do not see that. WHY?
7. Based on your flat Earth model where the Sun and Moon are circling each other 3,000 feet above the Earth, the Sun and Moon never set below the horizon nor rise from below the horizon - which is what everyone knows happens.
Here is the daily path that the Sun would take, a circle in the sky...
8. In order for your Moon to "recharge" once a month as your claim, it must have some capacity to store and then distribute its energy. What mechanism and laws of nature cause this to happen?
This is how a battery works. How does your version of the Moon do it?
9. Please explain in detailed physics/chemistry terms how the Sun recharges the Moon, as you stated in the video...
"Something like a cathode and anode of a battery. I believe there cycling involves electromagnetic energy and that they are quantum locked in their circuit."
Quantum locking is a process by which a superconductor is "locked" in place within a magnetic field, as a result of the Meissner effect.
The chemical element Mercury was historically the first to show superconductivity, and it is an example of aType I superconductor. Its practical usefulness is limited by the fact that its critical magnetic field is only 0.019 T, so the amount of electric current it can carry is also limited.
Mercury becomes a super conductor at a temperature below 4.1o Kelvin (which is -452.3o Fahrenheit).
10. But the Sun is not solid. That has been known for hundreds of years. Today amateur astronomers with small telescope often photograph sunspots, which are seen to move across the Sun's surface as it rotates.
And since the Sun is a gaseous ball and not solid, it's speed of rotation is different depending upon latitude.
The Sun spins faster at its equator than at its poles. The Sun rotates once every 24 days at its equator, but only once every 35 near its poles. We know this by watching the motion of sunspots and other solar features move across the Sun.
So the Sun is not an electrical battery or superconductor.
11. What force prevents the Sun and Moon from just falling down to the Earth? Something needs to counteract against gravity.
12. Your video mentions that the Moon's light has a cooling effect. That is just bad incorrect science. Please read the following for a clear and correct explanation of how to do that experiment...
Does the Moon make things colder, as some flat Earth advocates claim?
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/505-does-moon-light-make-things-colder-as-some-flat-earth-advocates-claim
13. How does your theory explain why planets Mercury and Venus predominately, show us phases as does the Moon?
Right now (September 15, 2017) the Almanac below says that Mercury is 62% lit up, while Venus is 87%?
Every amateur astronomer has seen the phases of these planets for themselves even with a small telescope.
One example...
14. How does your theory explain what is called planet RETROGRADE motion?
When we gaze into the night sky, our planets move to the East relative to the stars. However, there are times where it appears that a planet is moving in the opposite direction, to the West, and that is when a planet is referred to as moving RETROGRADE.
As documented in the below map, during May - July 2016, the planet Mars was observed to stop its natural eastward movement among the stars, and for a short period reversed direction in the sky moving toward the west.
Why and how does this happen based on your flat Earth map/theory?
15. As a follow up to the last question (#14) why don't planets Mercury and Venus ever go into retrograde motion? They never have.
16. Karlee, how does your model explain why we see three different types of Sun based eclipses; total, partial and annular?
This is how we here on the globe Earth explain it, based on the distance of the Moon from the Earth at the time. Show us yours...
17. For your theory to be tested and certified as true, you need to have it reviewed and published. So..
Submit your manuscript and work to the American Journal of Physics here...
http://aapt.scitation.org/ajp/authors/manuscript
Submit your paper and video here to Physical Letters for pier review and acceptance ...
https://www.elsevier.com/journals/physics-letters-b/0370-2693/guide-for-authors
This is how new theories are tested in the real world.
Conclusion:
Karlee, don't throw around words like quantum locking since apparently you have no clear understanding of what it is.
The Moon is not composed of metals, nor in a superconductive state.
Even with this new addition by Karlee Midrano, there still is no FE model that explains all observed phenomena, and is based on real world observation/analysis.
Discussion at - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7ipUKERU0tzYFxALJBli4A/discussion
Video at - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFgeSJC3oJA
kind regards, JonahTheScientist
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The following are screen shots from Karlee's video. The closed caption words are her voice...
But first, a few more real facts from us:
The Moon orbits Earth in the prograde direction and completes one revolution relative to the stars in approximately 27.323 days (a sidereal month).
Earth and the Moon orbit about their barycentre (common center of mass), which lies about 4,600 km (2,900 mi) from Earth's center (about 3/4 of the radius of Earth). On average, the Moon is at a distance of about 385,000 km (239,000 mi) from Earth's center, which corresponds to about 60 Earth radii.
With a mean orbital velocity of 1.022 km/s (2,290 mph), the Moon appears to move relative to the stars each hour by an amount roughly equal to its angular diameter, or by about half a degree. The Moon differs from most satellites of other planets in that its orbit is close to the plane of the ecliptic, and not to Earth's equatorial plane. The plane of the lunar orbit is inclined to the ecliptic by about 5°, whereas the Moon's equatorial plane is inclined by only 1.5° to the ecliptic.
Karlee's own words are closed captioned below...
Closed captions are a text version of the spoken part of a television, movie, or computer presentation.
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Here the Sun is in front of the Moon...
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Here the Moon is in front of the Sun...
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Imaginary theories beyond physical possibility continue to populate the flat Earth community.
Karlee Midrano’s electric universe flat Earth model: not one person in the long history of the human race has ever seen the Sun in front of the Moon, which is a monthly happening in her presumption.
The flat Earth motto “trust your senses” destroys her own credibility.
The theory has no basis in reality (physics/math/electromagnetism/gravity, etc.).
She has zero scientific training. Her theory is just an imaginary exercise of futility to support her emotional based belief system.
aka Karlee Sunshine defends her electric universe flat Earth theory by deleting opposition comments, rather than providing sound scientific proof.
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