markksargent - Physics / Astronomy professor debates former students on Flat Earth and fails - Mark Sargent
Dear marksargent,
Fact Check = No winners, no losers
The students did not contest the established scientific evidence presented by Professor Levine that shows the Earth does rotate. Rather, they were just one pointed in their distrust and insistence that NASA is a lying entity. Two different and divergent conversations were going on.
So the title of your video could equally have been, "Flat Earth former students fail to convince their professor that the Earth is flat"
Fact:
Students did not dispute or contest the scientific evidence.
Dr. Levine said, "You think that the Earth is not spinning on its north/south axis?"
CT2 said, 'I’m not saying it’s one way or the other. All I’m saying is that there is no proof that we are spinning. NASA has a way of leaving much to our imagination.
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Fact Check = student FAIL
Student statement, "Never seen a video of the spinning earth from space is all that’s being said. Can you provide one or an explanation as to why one doesn’t exist? Do you believe we went to the moon in 1969?
The correct answer...
Thousands of images of those exist.
Below are several images of the Earth taken from space by the DSCOVR satellite.
NASA's DSCOVR satellite is currently in placed in the L1 point at about 1,000,000 miles from earth doing the same thing, The EPIC cameras are taking 13 pictures at once in different single color spectrums, so to get true color, they superimpose the red green and blue pictures to make a full color picture. EPIC takes a new picture every 2-hours.
If you don't trust NASA and choose not to believe what is on that web site, well - that's your personal problem. Fact remains that the DSCOVR satellite and EPIC images are real.
Here is a short list of satellites that have been circumnavigating the Earth, from Pole to Pole, since the 1960's. They have the pictures you want. These circumpolar satellites, none affiliated with NASA, all verify that the Earth is a round globe.
Japan, China, Brazil, Argentina, CNES, ESA, India, Indonesia, Republic of Belarus, Pakistan, Russia, Sweden, Venezuela, South Korea, Thailand and Turkey...
Japan Meteorological Agency
MTSAT-2 / Himawari-7 (Geostationary, 140 East as backup)
Himawari-8 (2014)
China National Space Administration (CNSA)
Gaofen 1
Brazilian Space Agency (AEB)
CBERS-1
CBERS-2
CBERS-2B
CBERS-3
CBERS-4
Amazonia-1
SABIA-Mar
GEOMET-1
Argentina Space Agency (CONAE)
SAC-A
SAC-B
SAC-C
SAC-D
SAOCOM
SABIA-Mar
Centre National d'…tudes Spatiales (CNES)
SPOT
Pleiades
TOPEX/Poseidon
Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO)
Megha-Tropiques October 2011
Oceansat-2 23 September 2009
IMS-1 28 April 2008
Cartosat-2A 28 April 2008
CARTOSAT-2 10 January 2007
IRS P5 (CARTOSAT-1) 5 May 2005
IRS P6 (Resourcesat 1) 17 October 2003
IRS-P4 27 May 1999[citation needed]
IRS-P3 21 March 1996
IRS-P2 15 October 1994
IRS-1D 29 September 1997
IRS-1C 28 December 1995
IRS-1B 29 August 1991
IRS-1A 17 March 1988 Envisat
ERS (1 & 2)
CryoSat-2
Sentinel 1
Lembaga Penerbangan dan Antariksa Nasional (LAPAN INDONESIA)
Lapan-TUBsat
National Academy of Sciences of Republic of Belarus
BelKA
Pakistan's SUPARCO (Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission)
Badr-B - December 2001.
Pakistan Remote Sensing Satellite 2014
Russian Federal Space Agency (Roscosmos)
ElektroñL
Resurs-DK1
Resurs-P No.1
Resurs-P No.2
Kanopus-V
Meteor-M No.1
Meteor-M No.2
Swedish National Space Board
Munin
Venezuelan Agency for Space Activities
VRSS-1
South Korea
Arirang-1
Arirang-2
Arirang-3
Arirang-5
Chollian
THAILAND
Thaichote
Turkey
Gokturk-2 (2012) (IMINT), Turkish Armed Forces- Intelligence
RASAT (2011), Mapping
BILSAT-1 (2003-2006), was part of Disaster Monitoring Constellation Project
Gˆkt¸rk-1 (2013) (IMINT), Turkish Ministry of National Defence- Intelligence
Gˆkt¸rk-3- (IMINT), High Resolution Synthetic aperture radar (SAR) Earth observation satellite- Turkish Ministry of National Defence- Intelligence
The EUMETSAT European satellites (Meteosat, Metop, Sentinel 3, Jason 3 and Jason 2) operated by 29 participating countries, continuously monitor the Earth's weather from space. Real time images are available at:
(http://www.eumetsat.int/website/home/index.html)
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Fact Check = Student FAIL.
Student CT1 says, "the effects of passing thru the VA (Van Allen) belts are fatal if not shielded from the radiation, NASA admits in there new ORION preparations as much in their testing. I'll look for your reply tonight, enjoy your class professor."
The correct answer...
Astronaut radiation exposure depends primarily upon what trajectory their craft takes thru the Van Allen belts. 11 Apollo missions passed thru the VA belts with non-threatening radiation exposures.
Your supposed NASA engineer (Kelly Smith) that commented on the Van Allen Radiation Belts has been (purposely) misunderstood.
Reference Article = NASA ‘Admitted To Apollo Hoax’ In Orion Video, Say Obviously Mistaken Conspiracy Theorists.
(http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/12/04/nasa-orion-apollo-hoax-va_n_6268704.html)
"The answer, simply, and which has been explained in detail elsewhere, is that the Apollo astronauts were not in the Van Allen belt for long enough to have to deal with dangerous levels of exposure to radiation."
"The Apollo astronauts did return to Earth having been exposed to significant radiation - but not more than is allowed by US law for workers at nuclear power stations, for instance."
Read this article to understand the physics involved in passing thru the Van Allen belts..
The Van Allen Belts and Travel to the Moon
(http://www.wwheaton.com/waw/mad/mad19.html)
Comparing the Chernobyl fire fighter's radiation exposure to that of the Apollo astronauts:
It's important to be careful in this discussion because we are talking about 2 different types of radiation (exposure of Chernobyl fire fighters and Van Allen Radiation Belts). Both can be deadly, but apples are not oranges as the saying goes.
Chernobyl = thermonuclear decay radiation, neutron and gamma radiation.
Van Allen Radiation Belts = high energy cosmic rays. Protons and electron particle radiation, trapped by the Earth's magnetic field.
Nuclear Radiation is different than Van Allen Radiation
Human symptoms of acute radiation poisoning:
1) 25 -rad exposure = marked by a drop in the number of blood cells, called aplastic anemia.
2) 35 -rad exposure = typically includes nausea and vomiting, headaches, fatigue, fever, and a short period of skin reddening.
3) 600 to 3,000 rad exposure = Gastrointestinal complication
4) 3,000 and above rad exposure = Neurovascular complications
Some of the firefighters who died at Chernobyl received a dose of over 1000 rads (500 rads over a short period of time is generally considered fatal).
The average dose received by Apollo 14 astronauts was 1.14 rads, nowhere near high enough to present with any symptoms.
Average radiation doses of the flight crews for the Apollo Missions, as measured by onboard dosemeters:
Apollo Mission, skin dose in rads
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7 0.16
8 0.16
9 0.20
10 0.48
11 0.18
12 0.58
13 0.24
14 1.14
15 0.30
16 0.51
17 0.55
Here is a good article to read and video to watch, that explains this topic. This also has a map showing the trajectory of the Apollo space craft, passing thru the weakest part of the Belt.
Title = Apollo Rocketed Through the Van Allen Belts
(http://www.popsci.com/blog-network/vintage-space/apollo-rocketed-through-van-allen-belts)
Title = Apollo Experience Report - Protection Against Radiation
(https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19730010172.pdf)
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In conclusion: Science is not a win or lose discipline. The scientific method always gives us the best explanation that is known to humanity at the time.
For the conspiracy minded lack of proof is evidence of the level and intensity of the conspiracy. But remember that lack of evidence is not evidence itself.
How I Tried and Failed To Educate Two Flat Earthers*
(https://ricochet.com/416154/how-i-tried-and-failed-to-educate-two-flat-earthers/)
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Discussion at - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7ipUKERU0tzYFxALJBli4A/discussion
Video at..
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOC1kxcnkRE)
kind regards, JonahTheScientist
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