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Fact check = You FAIL
The Sun and Moon do not "levitate" via electromagnetics above the flat Earth.  Period.   

   





   






Fact check = You FAIL
Gravity is a real force.

Fact:
What is the "Faraday effect" or "Faraday rotation?
The Faraday effect or Faraday rotation is a magneto-optical phenomenon—that is, an interaction between light and a magnetic field in a medium.
This effect occurs in most optically transparent dielectric materials (including liquids) under the influence of magnetic fields.
The Faraday effect causes the rotation of the plane of polarization (plane of vibration) of a light beam by a magnetic field. 


   

The relation between the angle of rotation of the polarization and the magnetic field in a transparent material is:

where

β is the angle of rotation (in radians)

B is the magnetic flux density in the direction of propagation (in teslas)

d is the length of the path (in meters) where the light and magnetic field interact

v is the Verdet constant for the material. This empirical proportionality constant (in units of radians per tesla per meter) varies with wavelength and temperature and is tabulated for various materials.

Fact:
The term electromagnetism is defined as the production of a magnetic field by current flowing in a conductor. 

   

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Fact:
How does gravity differ from electromagnetism?

What do they act on?
Gravity acts on mass
Electromagnetism acts on charges

What is the relative strength of the two?
Electromagnetism is about 10³⁵ times stronger than gravity

What is the nature of their interaction?
Gravity is always attractive
Electromagnetism can be attractive OR repulsive

Can we shield ourseleves from these forces?
It is possible to shield spaces from electromagnetic forces.
There is no way to shield spaces from gravitational forces. 

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Fact:
What are some common sources that generate electromagnetic fields?

Electric and magnetic fields (EMFs) are areas of energy that surround electrical devices. Everyday sources of EMFs include

+ Power lines

+ Electrical wiring

+ Microwave ovens

+ Computers

+ Cell phones

Some people worry about EMF exposure and cancer. Some studies have found a link between EMF exposure and a higher risk of childhood leukemia, but other studies have not. Other studies have not found proof that EMF exposure causes other childhood cancers. Studies in adults did not prove that EMF exposure causes cancer.

Some people worry that wireless and cellular phones cause cancer or other health problems. The phones do give off radio-frequency energy (RF), a form of electromagnetic radiation. So far, scientific evidence has not found a link between cell phone use and health problems in humans. However, scientists need to do more research on this before they can say for sure.

Color key:
wind0wninja opinions are identified by this color
wind0wninja mix-up of cause verses effect.  Cause is gravity, effect is objects falling.  

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Paul Gabriel
False. Electromagnetic induction does not in any way replace gravity. Who is the fool, speaking lies, in that video?

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wind0wninja
Electromagnetism is real, gravity is not.

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Paul Gabriel
+windOwninja, you should not speak about anything that you don't understand.
If there is no such a thing as GRAVITY, then please explain why the moons (Io, Europa, Ganymede, and Callisto) of Jupiter seem to orbit that planet like clockwork.
What force prevents them from just flying off into space?
Orbital periods are ….. Io = 42-hours per orbit, Europa = 85-hours Ganymede = 172-hours Callisto = 17-days This is Galileo's own written record of how the moons change position over time.
https://10minuteastronomy.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/jupiter-moons-by-galileo.gif
I NOW WAIT FOR YOUR ANSWER.
kind regards, Paul

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wind0wninja
You first since obviously all you can do is regurgitate standard model dogma. Fg=MAg is indistinguishable from W=MA. Gravity depends on not just mass, but the assumption of a singularity at earth's core which also assumes there is a curve which nobody can find. So where does stardust and space gas get it's mass? What keeps everything from collapsing into the greatest mass?

You're trying to reconcile a flat earth model using heliocentric math and presupposition. Obviously over a flat earth sun, moon, and stars are not how far they say they are. Light year stars and a 93 million mile sun is not testable, provable, or falsifiable. On a flat earth model that's all out the window because the sun, moon, and stars are all part of a coherent system. Not this randomness that needs all kinds of patchwork like dark matter, dark energy, and the entire lot of special relativity shortcomings.

The universe is electric seen in Birkeland currents and the earth realm is a magnetic construct, in the eye of a homopolar generator. All celestial interactions are electromagnetic. Gravity is an effect not a cause, a byproduct of the absence of force to lift and hold. So everything going on up there is some kind of electromagnetic phenomenon.

Reference to video - Magnetic FE; Four Pillars; Sky Rotation; South Atlantic Anomaly [GLOBEBUSTERS] 

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Charles Lambert
+windOwninja, first off, you have already failed by passing the burden of proof to Paul, rather than clearly answering the question posed YOURSELF.
Second, show us how electricity / magnetism keeps the satellite Callisto in orbit around the planet Jupiter. Callisto is composed of approximately equal amounts of rock and ices, with a density of about1.83 g/cm3, the lowest density and surface gravity of Jupiter's major moons.
Third, what you call "dogma" is only your personal ignorant uneducated OPINION, and the world cares not about it.
Forth, if you want to understand Maxwell's equations (the core of what we are talking about) and how electricity/magnetism really work, go to your local college and take a few physics classes.
The 7th Day Truth Seeker is a religiously motivated person, with no science training at all. He just attracts other fools like you. kind regards,

wind0wninja
Bullshit, first of all earth is perceptionally self evidently flat and stationary. The extraordinary claim is that earth is rotating when you can't feel it or curved when you can't see it so the burden of proof is on you globers not me.

Satellites? what satellites? Show me one real picture of a satellite in space. In fact show me anything that proves space is real..

That, and i'll take the word of a trained pilot and engineer over a bookworm scientist with no application. The nice thing though i don't have to take anyone's word for anything, i can think for myself and i can't tell who is a totally bullshitter and who isn't. So what's your motivation? White privilege? white supremacy? just something i've noticed is that the biggest globe defenders are also very colonized white nationalist sympathizers.

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Paul Gabriel
+windOwninja, so once again you have not provided any evidence to back your assertion that "gravity is not" Why? You made the statement, so the burden of proof is still on you. Since you have no evidence, we have the right to call you a lair. The world cares not about your opinion.

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wind0wninja
Only a fool requires the proof of that which is self evident. Saying gravity is a cause and force is like saying darkness casts it's own shadow and it does so because of the shadow. No, darkness is simply the absence of light. When something is in the way of that light it casts a shadow. Saying gravity is responsible for things falling can only be compared to suggesting that shadows are responsible for the light shining. You have to place an object in front of a light to cast a shadow just like you have to pick up anything you drop.

The evidence for anyone or anything being in space is weak upon more sincere examination. Not an opinion, you just need to look at it and stop being an apologist for the hoax. Pressurization next to a vacuum with no barrier between. Prove that one. Rockets in space? Prove than one too. Big Bang? Prove it. Light years? Prove it. 93 million mile sun? Prove it. I'm not making that claim, you are. I can't prove any of that shit and neither can you.

What goes up must come down which is how i know that any celestial objects in the sky are not really physical objects or if so then it is interacting with earth's electromagnetic induction field.

Anything you pick up and drop has to be forced into position to do so. The absence of force does not constitute an equal opposing force. A pseudo force at best it can be compared to holding a rubberband in tension. The force is holding the tension, releasing tension releases force. Which is also why a Slinky will collapse into itself before descending. To perform any demonstration requires that you already stored energy in the weight of a coherent mass which is denser than it's surroundings. When you release the applied force to hold an object in a lifted position. That stored energy is released in the form of inertia and acceleration. Due to having released your hold, not due to gravity. The phenomenon you experience as gravity is not a cause, it is an effect. Things descend because that's how the construct is charged, oriented toward earth's dielectric inertial plane 8 miles down.

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Paul Gabriel
You get a F- for physics class today. Your explanation is imaginary and has no resemblance to how the world really functions. How did you get to such a delusional point? Did you ever take high school geometry or science?

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wind0wninja
Physics class gets an F in both physics and education. Nature doesn't do math either. Now show me an authentic and empirical proof of curvature. Until then all you have is assumption and scientistic dogma. You're just systematizing your delusions and no amount of logic can ever rectify that.

The law of gravity is a fiction. The fiction of gravity is like the fiction of law. The assumption that a certain thing is true, and which gives to a person or thing a quality which is not natural to it, and consequently establishes, a certain disposition, which, without the fiction, would be repugnant to reason and to truth. It is an order of things which does not exist, but which the law prescribes or authorizes. It differs from presumption because it establishes as true, something which is false; whereas presumption supplies the proof of something true.

Clinically the diagnosis is a false positive. You have an observation but hypothesis and conclusions are all wrong and based on obsolete "peer reviewed" data.

Did you ever think for yourself ever once ever in the history of ever? I'm guessing not. Listen careful. You were lied to. You can be lied to and you were and you bought it. You are what is wrong with the world.

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JonahTheScientist
+wind0wninja, here is some nice evidence of curvature and that the Earth is a globe. If you choose to not believe it, than that is your personal problem. Non-composite images of the Earth from space
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/493-non-composite-images-of-the-earth-from-space

 

 

FERC - Sun & Moon on Electromagnetic Field ("Faraday effect"of "Faraday rotation")
video at - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5HN1vmKp64&t=48s

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win0wninja
Soundly smashed against the rocks.
Reference to Paul On The Plane video - Was Curved Water Really Found??? You decide! FLAT EARTH



   



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win0wninja
Surface tension is not the same thing as gravity.

JonahTheScientist
+wind0wninja, of course, and your point is ??
Because of the relatively high attraction of water molecules for each other through a web of hydrogen bonds, water has a higher surface tension (72.8 milli-newtons per meter at 20 °C) compared to that of most other liquids At average gravity on Earth (conventionally,g = 9.80665 m/s2), a kilogram mass exerts a force of about 9.8 newtons


win0wninja
Jonah TheScientiist surface tension is not bending water around a ball. Gravity is presumed to be pulling everything to a singularity and other than the fact there is no proof of such a phenomenon that still depends on curvature which cannot be found.


JonahTheScientist
I have never said that water surface tension or water molecular attraction is responsible for water/oceans sticking to the curved globe Earth. No. Gravity alone acting on water is the sole responsible agent. Your statement that "curvature cannot be found" is incorrect.
The laws of physics are not influenced or altered in any way by your personal state of denial.
1) You can prove to yourself that the Earth is a round ball by doing the following simple experiment: An easy experiment that you can do - that proves the Earth is a round rotating globe http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/295-how-much-you-weigh-depends-upon-where-you-are-on-the-earth-because-it-s-a-rotating-sphere
Try it and let us know what your results are. OK?
2) Here is photographic evidence. If you contend that these picture are fake, THEN YOU PROVE IT NOW. Non-composite images of the Earth from space http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/493-non-composite-images-of-the-earth-from-space
3) The Foucault Pendulum is evidence that the Earth is round and spins.
4) Very Long Baseline Interferometry (VLBI) shows that the Earth is round
5) Laser ranging to artificial Earth satellites of the Lageos or Starlette (Satellite Laser Ranging) show that the Earth is round.
6) Earth remote sensing satellites like ERS1, ERS2 or TOPEX/POSEIDON and Lunar Laser Ranging (LLR) show that the Earth is round.
7) Laser ring gyroscopes show that the Earth is round. ...and the list goes on and on. So wind0wninja, get an education and a new life. You are on the wrong side of history.

win0wninja
Jonah TheScientiist You are stupid beyond belief. You don't have to say anything either. Your model demands that water curve around a globe rather than flow down hill and seek a level plane. Calling up surface tension has nothing you do with it and neither does so any fictional so-called gravity. Everytime you shit heads site surface tension to defuse this fact only show how utterly stupid you really are. None of the way things work are anything close to how they are described, which is all you have and they're not even very good descriptions.

win0wninja
Jonah TheScientiist You have zero photo evidence at all anywhere because nobody goes to space. Less than 600 people can even claim to have been to space and since you're not one, you fail because here again you have zero empirical evidence. All you have is the word of criminals

win0wninja
Jonah TheScientiist Foucault's pendulum is as complete bullshit as you are. Repeat the experiment without any dielectric components or friction points. And lets see your video documentation of how the experiment is constructed.

win0wninja
Jonah TheScientiist Again... satellites are a hoax.... because they have to be hoaxed to cover up preexisting phenomena. Everything they do with alleged satellites in by way of balloon or blimp.

win0wninja
Jonah TheScientiist OMG YOU ARE SO FUCKING FULL OF SHIT! RING LASER GYROS DO NOT PROVE A GLOBE GET OVER YOURSELF. Set up a ring laser gyro in your livingoom and wait for the rotation. There will be none. And before you say gyros are sensitive enough use a ring laser gyro outside of it ADIRU that is the only thing you can possibly say is making any curvature adjustments. Which is another concept you have zero evidence of not to mention it's stupid beyond belief.

JonahTheScientist
+wind0wninja, "Nobody goes to space" is just your ignorant opinion. Not corroborated by evidence. And frankly, the world cares not about your opinion. You are on the wrong side of history

win0wninja
Going to space isn't corroborated by evidence. Just the word of a criminal organization. Not an opinion. Fact. And you're culpable as citizen and in collusion by your conduct. Nobody gives a fuck about you, not even your masters.

Robert Oberdove
Of course astronauts into space is corroborated. Everyday aboard the ISS. Why not ask one of them yourself?
You just choose to ignore it.
Here are some other proofs:
Non-composite images of the Earth from space
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/493-non-composite-images-of-the-earth-from-space
If you wish to claim those photos are fake, then show me the forensic algorithm number that is wrong as your proof.

Robert Oberdove
What is the highest level of science and math education that you have? 

win0wninja
Authentic photos of oil paintings.

win0wninja
Define "highest level" and "education". You know what nevermind because whatever it is, is moot because your entire education system exists to support white supremacy and colonialism. Not to mention imported from the old Prussian military system of state sponsor indoctrination. Fact. What you call a degree in education is really like the old Latin root of the word, degradus, meaning to downgrade. Genocide is the law of the land, the United State could not exist without it. Democracy is an alibi covering up colonial control over indigenous lands 500+ years and counting. You can try to hold some completely worthless diploma from some Jesuit university but you can't because Jesuits are behind it all and fucking your mind completely. Repeatedly although for you there is substantial evidence they succeeded with you. The difference between me and you is i'm an autodidact and polymath and i don't need you to whitexplain anything to me. Unless you're on a path of decolonization, you don't have anything to say because everything you think you know is based of false presupposition before you ever come out of the box. What are the seven liberal arts and what order are they to be learned in order to even think critically? Look it up because you're out of order and systematizing your delusions.

Robert Oberdove
Which of these math courses have you taken? Algebra 1 and 2, Geometry, Trigonometry, Analytical Geometry, Pre-Calculus, Calculus, Statistics, Differential Equations, Integral Calculus, Vector Analysis, Probability, Number Theory, Regression and Linear Models, or Numerical Analysis?

Robert Oberdove
Which of these science courses have you taken? General Physics I and II, Oscillations and Waves, Classical Mechanics, Electrodynamics I and II, Optics, Laboratory, Quantum Mechanics, Thermal Physics, Solid State Physics, Elementary Particles, Computational Methods, Special Relativity or General Relativity,?

win0wninja
Which of those subjects have you studied, learned, and developed on your own as opposed to being led to your conclusions?

win0wninja
How much math does it take to figure out that all that is moot when you have no legitimate social contract here? You put on a show of pseudo intellectual hyperbole when you have no idea what it is you're even involved with here. You entire life doesn't add even up. You should go back to basic addition and subtraction.

Robert Oberdove
So based on your response, it's now obvious to everyone that you know nothing real and are just ranting hatred and opinion. The following article sums up your intent very well. In your head you have created your own angry, mental delusional world. 6 Reasons People Lie When They Don't Need To... ...from Psychology Today, by David J Ley Ph.D.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/women-who-stray/201701/6-reasons-people-lie-when-they-don-t-need

Robert Oberdove
Pictures of painting have their own unique forensic signatures, due to brush strokes and coloration. So now prove your own words, by showing us your detailed forensic examination of those photos to prove that they are of paintings. Show us your forensic evidence, or be called a lair.

win0wninja
Fact dude, Columbus didn't discover America. This is the only thing you need to know to know that everything you think or have been taught is false. You're systematizing your delusions and no amount of good intent or logic and retrieve you from that. Not an opinion. Fact.
You being the recipient of benefits of a colonial apartheid empire and what is called "particeps criminis" or partners in crime via your voluntary citizenship obligations. The fact you side with your oppressor is proof positive that you're a narcassistic gaslighting flying monkey with a really bad case of Stockholm syndrome and white fragility. Fact Not opinion.

win0wninja
Complete bullshit, you're never be able to tell. ever. fact.

Robert Oberdove
You are spewing lots of words and accusations, but zero proof. YOU HAVE PRESENTED NO EVIDENCE OF ANY KIND SO FAR. You are full of hate. Why? I have personal performed several experiments myself that prove the Earth is a globe. Have you? I don't care about Columbus. I am not defending whether he discovered America of not.

Robert Oberdove
Again, that is just personal opinion, devoid of any facts or evidence to back a word of it up. That's all you are. Hateful and blaming NASA and the world for your failure in life. Show evidence to backup your claims - otherwise its all meaningless.

win0wninja
Robert Oberdove You have not.

win0wninja
Robert Oberdove It's not NASA that is to blame, NASA is just an intermediary. All land titles invariably imminate from the Jesuits through Papal Bulls at the Vatican. I'm not failing life i'm full of love. You are upside-down and inside-out with your head proudly up your own ass successful only in terms of how far from nature and reality you have strayed with a death cult as a citizen-subject-debtor-settler-slave-zombie-cyborg, codified into positive statutory law. It's really you who hates so thoroughly the only way to avoid yourself is to knuckle under for the system and project you delusions on anyone challenging the system because it challenges you entire sense of self worth and diminishes your social currency which is dropping completely out of the bottom. Reducing you to a gaslighing flying monkey. You fail that psychology shit with me Cluster B. If there was any remote chance you weren't a nonbiased racist colonizer, trying to use psychology that has its roots in white supremacy, you removed all doubt. You have no credibility and no diploma in the world can fix that. Gaslighting is about all you got left but since you're certifiably delusional there is no reason to listen to you or take you seriously what so ever.

Robert Oberdove
+wind0wninja, I following evidence, not opinion or conspiracy. Show your evidence that "Jesuits through Papal Bulls at the Vatican." What documentation do you have? You never responded to Soundly's evidence of car headlights coming up from below the lake water. What is your explanation for that? So now here is your chance to personally discover once and for all what the true shape of the Earth is. Will you do this simple experiment to find out?
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/295-how-much-you-weigh-depends-upon-where-you-are-on-the-earth-because-it-s-a-rotating-sphere
Complete that experiment and show us your results.
If you don't do the experiment, we then have the right to call you an opinionated uneducated fraud spinning self constructed fairy tales that are not in tune with reality.

   

Decoding the Globe - Boundary Conditions (Part 2)
video at - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqu4trsQYU4&t=5s


   





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Published on - October 13, 2017

Discussion at - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7ipUKERU0tzYFxALJBli4A/discussion

kind regards, JonahTheScientist