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As a scientist with college degree in Astronomy, minor in Physics and Mathematics, I was appalled to find folks telling outright falsities and presenting bad science to bolster suspicion of our known accepted reality - that the Earth is a beautiful blue globe.

This blog clearly shows scientific proofs that debunk everything that flat Earth proponents claim.  Here we also expose the comments those YouTube video channels delete, because they don't want you to see them.

The Earth is not flat.  That claim is a conspiracy theory perpetrated by ignorant people who have ulterior personal motives and agendas.

The Earth is a beautiful blue spheroid globe spinning on an axis 23.5° once each day, and orbiting the Sun every 365.25 days.

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Flat Earth Hub (Tory Bertram) - Flat Earth - Cowards?


Dear Flat Earth Hub,


Fact check = You FAIL
As evident by the 4 pictures below, you purposely block visitor comments that you don't agree with, and don't want your channel followers to see.

Your entire video about my three debunking posts showed zero evidence to dispute my claims. Rather, your video is a personal rant against globe Earth advocates.

The issue that we are really discussing here is not whether the Earth is round or flat. It's about human psychology, conviction, and egoic investment in your personal world viewpoint.

Ultimately it's about who you see yourself as being.

Individual emotions and spiritual beliefs play a deep part in this.

Facts, and reasoned argument, don’t change minds once those minds are made up. Although we can sometimes, with effort and awareness, overcome this tendency in ourselves, it applies to all of us. There are at least three ‘cognitive biases’ identified by psychologists that explain why:
1. Confirmation Bias
2. Commitment and Consistency
3. The Backfire Effect

(http://coachingleaders.co.uk/confirmation-bias-backfire-effect/)

A MAN WITH A CONVICTION is a hard man to change. Tell him you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point.

How would people so emotionally invested in a belief system react, now that it had been soundly refuted?

Mr. Flat Earth Hub, you are in the realm of cultism. Complete brainwashing and paranoia about the world we live in.

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Fact check...
regarding your video (Flat Earth - NASA [Admits to Faking Space])

At time mark 2:45 you state, “You can clearly hear in the song, the way they're putting it out, they’re, it's all about, almost admitting they’re faking space."

Your key word there is "ALMOST". Almost does not cut it.

Truth is NASA admitted nothing about space with their video. The video is a simple and nice salute of achievement to women.

Rocker Grace Potter Honors Women of NASA in Music Video
(http://www.space.com/34180-grace-potter-music-video-nasa-women.html)

Some lyrics...

And they always told us we would be nothing
And look what we've done (look what we've done), hey
And they always told us we would be nothing
But look what we've become (look what we've become)

Uh, uh
Look what we've become

My conclusion:
Why did you twist a nice event and turn it into another conspiracy?

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At time mark 2:54 you state,
"Now that’s not the nuts. Concrete evidence. And my channel is not always about 100% concrete evidence. I also like to put out allot of evidence that really…, you will have to be already woken up somewhat to be able to hear and see this…."

You should only post about real evidence.

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At time mark 4:15 you state, "
“like I said allot of my work expects the person that’s watching my work to be partly awake on some of this stuff. It’s not there to prove the flat Earth, but it’s there to show you just more and more stuff that they are mocking us with."

If your videos are not to prove that the Earth his flat, then why do you use "Flat Earth" in the titles of your videos?

And who is the "they" that are mocking you?

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At time mark 4:28 you state,
"He starts to come in here with degrees and stuff. This is all bullshit. It’s a plane and simply fact that the horizon should be dropped in a minute when you start leaving the ground."

This is where you have lost your sense of reason. The calculations do not lie. 4.3 degrees is correct. To deny that, is to deny reason and reality.

The world is not as you want it to be, it is AS IT IS.

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At time mark 4:40 you state,
"This here is just throwing numbers at you. And there is no possible way that 4.3 degrees curvature is the explanation of the concord window."

OK. So if 4.3 degrees curvature is not correct, then tell me what the correct angle of curvature is, and show your calculations/evidence for your number.

Why was the concord grounded? Here is the correct explanation...
On 10 April 2003, Air France and British Airways simultaneously announced that they would retire Concord later that year. They cited low passenger numbers following the 25 July 2000 crash, the slump in air travel following the 11 September attacks and rising maintenance costs.

…not because a passenger was recording his flight.

If the video was not filmed actually filmed in Antarctica as you stated, then why show it at all?

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At time mark 9:25 you state
“As soon as they get down past the 70th they are under very strict rules about what they are allowed to carry with them out on desk. And they only make if anything, only a few short stops and their always on the outer areas."

Expeditions online - sing yang symbol - no really.

How does the penguin beak fit into that?

You're really stretching on this one.

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At time mark 11:42 you state
"This is a clear example of what they are willing to do, like xx said, willfully lie to keep this lie, hidden from the masses. They do not want the masses to wake up."


As for me, I'm just a retired teacher trying to save others from your cultish paranoia. No one pays me for my work. I do not represent any organization or cause. I'm just a regular logical thinking man, defending science and reason.




JonahTheScientist discussion at - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7ipUKERU0tzYFxALJBli4A/discussion

Video at..
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEXLEkgvQmQ)

kind regards, JonahTheScientist

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The following discussion thread was deleted by Flat Earth Hub because he had no real answers to flat earth questions.

This delete shows that Flat Earth Hub does not want his followers to find out what a liar and dishonest guy he is.

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