Flat Earth International Conference November 2017, North Carolina USA - How the Truth Movement has gone astray

Dear readers,

After conference update:
Rick Hummer may have been the real organizer of this event, rather than Robbie Davidson. Rick Hummer is an end-of-times advocate.
At the conference HE announced that FECORE was the best research group of the year, even though they have published nothing.
Rick owns the FECORE internet domain.

Before conference article:

None of the presenters at this conference have science training (astronomy/astrophysics/atmospherics/aerospace/rocketry/avionics and instrumentation/communications technicians/satellite telemetry specialist/orbital celestial mechanics, etc.), albeit Brian Mullin is a construction engineer.

It's not that they are a bunch of PhD. physics who have reexamined some of our past established and excepted scientific truths, and now they have found legitimate problems with the original math or theory.

NO. Every one of these flat Earth presenters has an ulterior emotional and personal psychologic reason for taking the position that they do. And it has absolutely nothing to do with errors in past scientific research.

The flat Earth theory is not a theory from the standpoint of a scientific system. But rather it is a belief system based on emotion, not reason. There are no working flat Earth models that accurately account for all observable phenomena.

Even if you proved that the Earth was not a globe (which no one in this current age of science has done) that in no way presupposes that the Earth is flat.

Nature allows for infinite variety, and therefore there are not just TWO CHOICES (flat or globe) that the Earth can be.
The shape of the Earth could be concave, convex, look like a parabola, rectangular, look like a cylinder, an ice cream cone, etc.
Since there aren't just 2 choices for the shape of the Earth, to prove it's flat you need to provide evidence that shows a flat Earth.

Yet all of their efforts are examples of bad science, trying desperately to disprove or at least bring suspicion to established scientific fact.

Others just claim they represent the TRUTH, which is the word of the Bible. So all scientific evidence is forged and completely meaningless.

And some are in it because it's now a popular fad, and they want to make some money.

So who are these flat Earth supporters?

For the most part, they are white Anglo Saxon people living in the United States, Western Europe, the United Kingdom and Australia.
Just a very few from Russia. Hardly none are from Asia, South America, Africa, Middle East, or India.

From a religious standpoint, some are atheists, but the vast vast majority are evangelical Christians taking advantage of current changes in societies, toward distrust of government, the establishment, political elite, money power centers, and placing the blame on a grand conspiracy to hide the true shape of the Earth (flat according to them).

Many evangelical Christians have taken up the flat Earth cause as an "article of faith" to the old testament, and to their current devotion and belief in God as the creator.

From Lawrence Krauss:
"Science originated in the only form of education there was, but it grew up. And then the questions that science asked, progressed, the questions that religion asked didn't progress - because the difference between science and religion is that we don't assume the answers before we ask the questions. We let nature tell us the answers."

No knowledge has ever come from revelation.

Some people would rather read an ancient book than learn.

In a sense the doctrines of the worlds organize religions are incompatible with science (the empirical evidence of what really is)."

With regard to the current flat Earth movement, from a psychological standpoint, this has nothing to do with the shape of the Earth.
It's not really about whether the Earth is flat, round, pear shaped, oblong, concave, convex, parabolic, cone shaped, of just looks like an ice cream cone.

No. It's all about discontent with their personal lives and lack of empowerment. Feeling marginalized and not heard.

From an education stand point, none hold college degrees in the sciences (astronomy, physics, chemistry, mathematics, optics or the like).

Those that hold graduate degrees are from seminary and religious colleges.

Most supporters are "blue collar" with no formal college education.

When faced with a direct question like, "you claim that a heavenly dome exists over the Earth, and the stars are only lights (not thermonuclear reaction massive objects) and gravity does not exist, then please here and now show us the empirical evidence that supports such claims.

"Exactly how many feet above the surface of the Earth is the dome, and what instrument(s) did you use to determine that? What is the dome made from? What supports it's enormous structure? Since the Sun and the Moon are inside the dome, exactly how high up are they, and how did your measure that distance?"

And then there is usually only silence and no answer from them.

They all sanitize their YouTube channel by deleting and preventing comments contrary to their position, from showing up to the public.
There are many examples of this shown below. And a favorite tactic is to allow a globe earth discussion to go on for some time, but then later when evidence of their flat Earth stance is demanded and of course they have none, they just stop posting (*public) anymore comments to that stream. That way they appear to have gotten the last word in and the globe Earth representative was stymied and had no further rebuttal (again, because the YouTube channel owner deletes all further rebutal remarks). They dishonestly portray themselves as winners of every debate.

I disagree with the view expressed by Neil deGrasse Tyson that the problem lies on our educational system, where students are not taught to think.

I have found that MOST flat Earth supporters finished high school and did learn that the Earth was a globe. And they did accept that as fact at that time. However, now as adults, they have become disenchanted with the world and their culture. Fear, suspicion, distrust and hatred has spread. They feel controlled by politicians and the financial elite, and as such have come to question (now as the Truthers) everything they have ever learned.

Among the flat Earth leaders, there is no consensus as to what the dimensions of the flat Earth is. Although most say it's circular (7,915 miles in diameter) some hold out that it's concave in shape, or that the actual size may be infinite (Eric Michaels = Eric Dubay)

For them, gravity is a fictitious theory, just a non-existent force.

And above all, they contend that EVERY PICTURE of the Earth from space is a fake (CGI or other Photoshop manipulation). Their argument goes that NASA is a Free Masonic group, out to hide the truth of God from humanity. And of course NASA is in cahoots with all other countries (and private institutions like SpaceX) to hide that truth (that the Earth is really flat). And then somehow NASA is also able to coercive modern airlines who fly directly from North America to South American, or Australia, into claiming that they advertise and post arrival/departure times for flights that do not really exist.

"Satellites by Countries and Organizations"
(Algeria, Argentina, Australia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bolivia, Brazil, etc.)
http://www.n2yo.com/satellites/?t=country

Samuel Shelton in 1956 founded the modern day Flat Earth society, and claimed that space pictures of the Earth were all "fake."

Samuel Shelton also said that "science is an abomination to God. Spreading your flat Earth message is a way of giving power back to the people (you). It feels good."

Ladies and gentleman, the flat Earth movement that exists today is still nothing other than a conspiracy. There is ZERO evidence that the Earth is flat, and millions of pictures and scientific proof that support the Earth is a globe.

Please don't get caught into this flat Earth nonsense conspiracy. Don't listen to these crackpot non-scientists, evangelical deceptions, spreading the results of bad error prone experiments.

Go to school and learn what really is.

kind regards, JonahTheScientist

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So who are the presenters of this forum?

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Is this the kind of guy you want to hear from?

This is how he waisted his donor’s money...

Title = Rob Skiba - balloon launch failure with loss of GoPro camera and stabilization gimbal - time to learn from High School students how to do it correctly.

Dear Rob Skiba,

Since your balloon launch was such a failure, you should read and learn from some of the articles below, about successful balloon launches by students. Their pictures all clearly show that the Earth is curved, so why are you wasting your donor’s money?

http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/389-rob-skiba-balloon-launch-failure-with-loss-of-gopro-cameral-and-stabilization-gimbal

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..did not accept the $10,000 prove flat Earth challenge and hid the invitation from his subscribers by deleting it from view.
...for the last 3-months has shifted his attention to commenting on christian teaching rather than on flat Earth promotion.
...my debunk - still need to load from google plus
...Video just deleted after my debunk - "Rob Skiba exposes NASA in the country that exposed moon rock as petrified wood"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U18HsPjxHlY
Just reposted under this URL without many of the previous comments - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRr0B-l3gAY

Rob Skiba Fans
...Terminated as of April 19, 2017, after only being up for two weeks.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIHxOtwGbr_prQoy5KMNVcw/videos

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Rob does not want his subscribers to see a real balloon launch, up to near 100,000 feet, with real no fisheye cameras. So he just deletes the comment to his video. This is fraud in action...

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Rob does not want his subscribers to test for themselves if the Earth is really flat or not.

So he deleted our comment describing this simple experiment, that anyone can do, to discover the truth of the situation for themselves.

An easy experiment that you can do - that proves the Earth is a round rotating globe
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/295-how-much-you-weigh-depends-upon-where-you-are-on-the-earth-because-it-s-a-rotating-sphere

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For Rob Skiba, it's all about religion and the Bible. That is the motivation that drives him to REJECT accepted rational established scientifc fact...

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Rob deletes comments every day that offer an opposing viewpoint...

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ODD TV/Reality (Matthew Aaron Procella)

He supports the flat Earth conspiracy strictly because he believes, "The spherical earth paradigm is a 500 years and running conspiracy perpetrated by the Jesuits, the Vatican, Zionist Jews and the Freemasons."

Unfortunately, he also has a criminal record.

ODD TV (Mathew Aaron Procella)
...O.D.D., which stands for Overdose Denver
..my debunk
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/339-odd-tv-mathew-aaron-procella

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He published this fake video to convince flat Earth people that he really was on the game show Jeopardy. But of course he was not.

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Here is his confession video, which he quickly deleted afterward...

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Listed below are ODD TV's actual verbal closed caption comments...

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Mathew Aaron Procella does not want his subscribers to test for themselves if the Earth is really flat or not.

So he deleted our comment describing this simple experiment, that anyone can do, to discover the truth of the situation for themselves.

An easy experiment that you can do - that proves the Earth is a round rotating globe
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/295-how-much-you-weigh-depends-upon-where-you-are-on-the-earth-because-it-s-a-rotating-sphere

"You said that Mark Sargent opened your eyes to this, the earth may very well be flat."

Flat Earth And Other Hot Potatoes (Patricia Steere)
...did not accept the $10,000 prove flat Earth challenge and hid the invitation from his subscribers by deleting it from view.
...I was surprised by this behavior from Patricia Steere; evidence that the Earth is really a round globe is not welcomed here. Akin to, "leave us alone so that we can remain in our delusional mental bubble."
...this site deletes all comments from people who do not agree with them. They leave no opportunity for discussion.
...my debunk
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/218-flat-earth-and-other-hot-potatoes-patricia-steere

Joseph Klimera (Joseph Lee Townlee)
...shut down his site about a year ago and went into hiding after claiming that Jeranism was blackmailing him for $30,000. Otherwise his affair with Patricia Steere would be exposed.
He explained it in this video, which has since been taken off the air.
"Flat Earth Jeranism Scam Blackmailed me on skype"......by Joseph Klimera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt64t-ml2_Q

CHRiS WRoCK aka The Flat Earth Reality
...invited Antonio Subirats to a live hangout and ended up in a major argument.
...then other accusations like "Nathan, Patricia Steere and Antonio decided to have a hangout dedicated to bashing people they don’t like, titled “Flat Earth People."
What a circus
...my debunk
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/86-chris-wrock-aka-the-flat-earth-reality

What does she also believe...

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Patricia Steere does not want his subscribers to test for themselves if the Earth is really flat or not.

So he deleted our comment describing this simple experiment, that anyone can do, to discover the truth of the situation for themselves.

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Mark Sargent

Early in 2015, he released a series of youtube videos titled "Flat Earth Clues", which delves into the possibility of our human civilization actually being inside a "Truman show" like enclosed system, and how it's been hidden from the public since 1956.

Flat Earth Clues (Mark Sargent)
...my debunk
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/224-flat-earth-clues-mark-sargent

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Sargent is obsessed with NASA being the pinnacle and fountainhead of all deception regarding the shape of the earth, and often frames his position against the backdrop of “NASA is lying”.

Sargent colorfully details a theory, in which he provides absolutely no evidence of; that the largest expedition to Antarctica, known as Operation Deep Freeze, spurred the space race in the late 1950s based on what was supposedly found there

He also believes that…

Stars, planets, and all celestial bodies are nothing more than a giant projection simulated on some sort of “screen”. They don’t actually exist.

Alludes to some form of alien intelligence being behind it all by referring to “whoever painted the sky”, along with “they” when describing the “hologram in the sky”. Never credits God with creation.

Sargent posits that at some point, world leaders discovered the true shape of the earth, and instead of causing mass panic, decided to “keep it going” and actively engage in deceiving everyone ever since. Absolutely no support, even anecdotally, provided for this.

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Mark Sargent recently claimed the Moon did not take part in the August 21, 2017 solar eclipse. His video is a roundtable discussion of various flat Earth topics, as well as complaints that they could not see anything in front of the Sun during totality - so therefore the Moon was not present.

That begs to reason, in view of this big horrendous blunder, why should anyone believe a word of what HE says about the Earth being flat?

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So here is the story of how the US Govenment supposedly hide the existence of a celestial dome over the Earth, and how Mark Sargent has turned this whole thing into a conspiracy theory.

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Make sure you pay your money...

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They prefer that you join at the $450 or higher level

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Mark Sargent does not want his subscribers to test for themselves if the Earth is really flat or not.

So he deleted our comment describing this simple experiment, that anyone can do, to discover the truth of the situation for themselves.

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Jeran Campanella (jaranism)

A former drug store manager turn flat Earth advocate.

Jeran has said, "If you continue to follow them (the globe Earth supporters) you can expect further enslavement by an elite group of pedophiles, Satanists, inbreeds, Zionists, users pushing baby eating demons."

The closed caption below is Jeran speaking on his video...

jeranism (Jeran Campanella)
...in a latest video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DIAlhxG9CQ),
video mirrored at - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qZrSE61aFA
Jeran says this about globe Earth supporters,
"If you continue to follow them you can expect further enslavement by an elite group of pedophiles, Satanists, inbreeds, Zionists, users pushing baby eating demons."
...he deals in misinformation. may believe in the globe Earth. does this to make money and fun of everyone.
...makes fun of NASA and claims they never sent men to the moon.
...a prime example of someone who has zero positive proof that the Earth is flat, so spends all his time trying to twist established scientific verifiable fact to suite his own purpose.
...he presents personal opinion and denial rather than real evidence.
...believes that there is some grand conspiracy to hide the flat Earth from the world.
...believes that mathematics is a faulty system
...actively solicits donations and is getting about $424 per month
...my debunk
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/278-jeranism-jeran-campanella

Conscious Truth
...confirms in his "Message to Jeranism - 4D Flat Earth Keys" video that the standard flat Earth map, with the Sun and Moon circling above simulating day and night, is wrong.
...my debunk
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/88-conscious-truth

Joseph Klimera (Joseph Lee Townlee)
...shut down his site about a year ago and went into hiding after claiming that Jeranism was blackmailing him for $30,000. Otherwise his affair with Patricia Steere would be exposed.
He explained it in this video, which has since been taken off the air.
"Flat Earth Jeranism Scam Blackmailed me on skype"......by Joseph Klimera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt64t-ml2_Q

TigerDan925
...before signing off, TigerDan eventually says, "Becuase the flat Earth is a cult, no doubt whatsoever."
...Christian fundamentalist who has not posted anything new for 11-months.
...he was beaten up by jeranism and the target of a massive disinformation campaign.
...to his credit he does believe that Antarctica is just a large continent where the South Pole is located, and it does not surround the Earth or create a barrier that holds the ocean in, as claimed by most other flat Earth people.

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Jeran Campanella believes that the Moon's shadow during a solar eclipse should not be crossing the Earth from west to East. He also admits that his modeling software is not all that great, and the Moon was not represented in the proper proportions.

Everyone knows that the eclipse totality path did move from West to East across the United States, so

that begs to reason, based on this major blunder of his, why should anyone believe a word of what HE says about the Earth being flat?

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These are some comments that jeranism has deleted so that his subscribers cannot see correct science...

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Jeran Campanella does not want his subscribers to test for themselves if the Earth is really flat or not.

So he deleted our comment describing this simple experiment, that anyone can do, to discover the truth of the situation for themselves.

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Bob Knodel (Globebusters)

GLOBEBUSTERS (Bob Knodel)

…this site deletes all comments from people who do not agree with them. They leave no opportunity for discussion.
...did not accept the $10,000 prove flat Earth challenge and hid the invitation from his subscribers by deleting it from view.
...this site deletes all comments from people who do not agree with them. They leave no opportunity for discussion.
...working on a new 3D map of the flat Earth, based on their beliefs
...this video (GLOBEBUSTERS - Flat Earth - Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?) has been retracted.
That is the video I debunked.
...my debunk
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/331-globebusters-caught-deleting-video-comments-that-expose-flat-earth-as-a-delusion
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/264-globebusters-bob-knodel

ThePottersClay and Globebusters both FAIL in this latest example of simple high school geometry…
At this point, we question the credibility of Bob Knodel as a professional electrical engineer for 35-years, since he endorsed ThePottersClay video.
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/609-thepottersclay-and-globebusters-both-fail-in-this-latest-example-of-simple-high-school-geometry

Revoldo (Globebusters other channel)
...Terminated as of February 1, 2017
This account has been terminated due to multiple or severe violations of YouTube's policy against spam, deceptive practices, and misleading content or other Terms of Service violations.
(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7krTABRwNROOx4sMZ4mKmg/videos)

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The Globebusters balloon launch, so send him money - is his cry...

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So the result of the balloon launch was pure mayhem and no conclusions were reached...

Telemetry with the balloon was lost 20-minutes into the flight.

https://whotfetw.com/blog/?p=23476

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Bob Knodel believes that the Moon never made it to the party, so it did not participate in the solar eclipse of August 21, 2017. Something else caused the eclipse to occur.

In view of HIS monumental error, it begs to reason why should anyone believe a word of what Bob says about the Earth being flat?

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So here in this YouTube video Bob asks for evidence that the Earth is curved. Well, we gave some to Bob, but he deleted our comment so that no one else (other than him) would see it.

What does this indicate to you?



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Bob Knodel does not want his subscribers to test for themselves if the Earth is really flat or not.

So he deleted our comment describing this simple experiment, that anyone can do, to discover the truth of the situation for themselves.

An easy experiment that you can do - that proves the Earth is a round rotating globe
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/295-how-much-you-weigh-depends-upon-where-you-are-on-the-earth-because-it-s-a-rotating-sphere

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Jonathan Christopulos (TheMorgile)

...his motivation for supporting the flat Earth stance is strictly religious...

He has stated,

"I know for 100% certain now that theoretical sciences are nearly absorb conjecture and my faith in the almighty creator and Christ’s Son, God’s word made flesh, has taken rout and grown immensely in my life over the past two years, in spite of a great deal of tribulation during this massive unveiling of the deception of scientism and heliocentric-ism, and ultimately anti-christian as the one false deceptive religion that has deceived the entire world."

TheMorgile (Jonathan Christopulos)
...went bankrupt after a bad motorcycle accident in 2014 and his self-employed business quickly folded. He stopped making flat Earth videos then.
...has come back to YouTube recently
...is scientifically illiterate and therefore believes that hundreds of proofs show that the Earth is not a spinning sphere, never moved a single yard, there is no curvature, its not orbiting, etc. etc. etc.
...does not understand physics. He thinks that space suits would simply explode in the vacuum of space.
...actively solicits donations on PayPal.
...my debunk
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/80-themorgile-jonathan-christopulos

Jonathan Christopulos - channel

Here is his video where he states that the Moon was not involved in the August 21, 2017 total solar eclipse. Therefore, based on this horrendous blunder, why should anyone believe a word of what HE says about the Earth being flat?

Since Jonathan blames the Illuminati for hiding the flat Earth truth from humanity, and we all know that is crazy, why would you trust anything that he says?

He also has a problem with transgender prejudice.



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Jonathan Christopulos does not want his subscribers to test for themselves if the Earth is really flat or not.

So he deleted our comment describing this simple experiment, that anyone can do, to discover the truth of the situation for themselves.

An easy experiment that you can do - that proves the Earth is a round rotating globe
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/295-how-much-you-weigh-depends-upon-where-you-are-on-the-earth-because-it-s-a-rotating-sphere

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Brian Mullin - his participation in this event has been canceled.

Brian Mullin
...site deleted as of April 27, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/user/MullkyB/videos
...a structural engineer by profession, trying to leverage his math background to show that some laws of physics (like those that prove the Earth is a spinning ball) are incorrect. Unfortunately, since he has very limited knowledge about real physics and astronomy, he errors in his analysis.
...my debunk
(http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/43-brian-mullin)

The Videos have been scrubbed and the Account has been Renamed Creation Cosmology Institute...
...which has now also been deleted, along with its FaceBook account
https://www.youtube.com/user/MullkyB/featured
https://www.facebook.com/CreationCosmology

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Robbie Davidson

Celebrate Truth (Robbie Davidson)
...has opened a Patreon account asking for your money
...christian bible thumping all the way to show that Scientism is a sin
(the word "scientism," this is casting science as religion)
...the gang of christians (The T.R.U.T.H. Group, Balls Out Physics, MrThrive&Survive, Upon The Circle and Celebrate Truth) came out to twist scientific fact, world class discoveries, and history to fit their own religious world mind set
...and of course you can purchase the entire new "Scientism Exposed" video from them
...my debunk
(http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/71-celebrate-truth-robbie-davidson)

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For Robbie Davidson, it's all about the Bible, the Bible, and the Bible. Throw out reason and evidence to enter his channel...

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Robbie Davidson does not want his subscribers to test for themselves if the Earth is really flat or not.

So he deleted our comment describing this simple experiment, that anyone can do, to discover the truth of the situation for themselves.

An easy experiment that you can do - that proves the Earth is a round rotating globe
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/295-how-much-you-weigh-depends-upon-where-you-are-on-the-earth-because-it-s-a-rotating-sphere

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Emmanuel Lokonga (Thecontrovery7)

This man has zero scientific training or understanding of physics / astronomy. As such he is unqualified to say anything about the shape and motion of our Earth.

He is a hard core Christian fundamentalist, preaching about God, Satin, Sin, Serpents etc (see bottom screen shots)...

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Emmanuel Lokonga does not want his subscribers to test for themselves if the Earth is really flat or not.

So he deleted our comment describing this simple experiment, that anyone can do, to discover the truth of the situation for themselves.

An easy experiment that you can do - that proves the Earth is a round rotating globe
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/295-how-much-you-weigh-depends-upon-where-you-are-on-the-earth-because-it-s-a-rotating-sphere

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This is the kind of hard core Christianity he is into...

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DITRH aka Deep Inside The Rabbit Hole (David Weiss)

DITRH (David Weiss)
...his main channel has been deleted when checked in July 2017 (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3XjdiuLcckJCFg7q-2Bvfg/videos)
and now a new one established
...this site deletes all comments from people who do not agree with them. They leave no opportunity for discussion.
...our debunk
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/129-ditrh-david-weiss

Here David Weiss comes up with all kinds of excuses why the Moon was not part of the August 21, 2017 total solar eclipse. Since we all know that is ridiculous, why believe anything he says about the Earth being flat?

According to David, this is what our Earth looks like...

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Pastor Dean Odle

Why add a pastor to the venue rather than a scientist?

Pastor Dean Odle knows zero science, and only is interested in promoting the flat Earth theory because he believes it fits with his Christian Bible stance.

The FLAT EARTH REVIVAL: Why It Matters (July 18, 2017) PQ
Why does the Biblical Cosmology matter to people? Is the Flat Earth bring people to Jesus?

Dean Odle Ministries (DOM) is part of the apostolic outreach of Fire & Grace Church in Opelika, Alabama. Dean Odle has been a pastor, church planter, prophet, and teacher in the five-fold ministry for three decades. More than anything DOM wants to help people come to know Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. We are also called to equip the saints to walk in the truth of God's Word. We long for genuine revival in the body of Christ and a great awakening among the lost and deceived and desire to see more and more of God's great signs and wonders through His people as He promised in Mark 16:15-20and John 14:12.

Since 2008, the Lord led Dean Odle to return to the study and preaching of end times Bible prophecy. There is a sense of urgency like never before as things are speeding up in the world and the prophecies are being fulfilled.

From his website home page...

So how does a Pastor with zero science training qualify to say what the shape of the Earth really is?

Pastor Dean Odle's statement; "I do believe that the elite the illuminati the Satanist the wealthy you know the bankers I believe they are all in league with Fallen Angels the demons and their offspring..."

Closed caption below os the voice of Pastor Dean Odle

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Karlee Sunshine (Karlee Midrano)

Karlee Sunshine (Karlee Midrano)
…this site deletes all comments from people who do not agree with them. They leave no opportunity for discussion.
...our debunk
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/532-karlee-sunshine

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Karlee's version of the Earth and Moon system show, the Sun in front of the Moon at times, and the Sun behind the Moon at times.

Now we all know that is not correct...

Here the Sun is in front of the Moon...

Here is a detailed analysis of her FE theory:
Karlee Sunshine (Karlee Midrano) - Flat Earth: Solar Eclipse explained in 5 minutes - yet another failed FE model
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/588-karlee-sunshine-karlee-midrano-flat-earth-solar-eclipse-explained-in-5-minutes

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Here the Sun is behind the Moon...

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Her solar eclipse videos are shown here...

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She deleted comments from her channel that offer an opposing view

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Flat Earth International Conference November 2017, North Carolina USA - How the Truth Movement has gone astray