Dave Jensen (michiganpermaculture@gmail.com) - flat Earther does not understand, and will not accept empirical evidence of any kind.
Dear readers,
Here is a clear example of a flat Earth proponent (Dave Jensen) that does not understand, and will not accept empirical evidence of any kind.
What type of mental conditioning leads people to reject reality in favor of their self-created out-of-touch world view?
Please read the following email tread for examples...
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Dave Jensen <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.;
Jonah,
I read your site, but you failed to mention any scientific proof of an oblate spheroid, spinning. What would be your primary proof (experiment) of this whirling sphere theory you speak of with conviction and confidence?
Kindly,
David
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JonahTheScientist:
Hello Dave,
Thanks for the inquiry. Here are some items for you:
Try this yourself...
An easy experiment that you can do - that proves the Earth is a round rotating globe
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/295-how-much-you-weigh-depends-upon-where-you-are-on-the-earth-because-it-s-a-rotating-sphere
Try this yourself...
Build a Foucault pendulum yourself and watch it for 24-hours
Students at Lexington High School in Lexington, Massachusetts, also did the experiment
New ROMY (Giant Ring Laser) currently in test will offer data that the earth's rotates, and it's rate of rotation varies.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/buried-lasers-will-sense-earths-spin-and-quakes-doing-twist
Very Long Baseline Interferometry (VLBI)
Laser ranging to artificial Earth satellites of the Lageos or Starlette (Satellite Laser Ranging)
Earth remote sensing satellites like ERS1, ERS2 or TOPEX/POSEIDON and Lunar Laser Ranging (LLR)
The exact position of the north pole as the Earth revolves changes ever so slightly day by day. This at least proves that the Earth is not stationary.
Space photos from any satellite
Non-composite images of the Earth from space
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/493-non-composite-images-of-the-earth-from-space
...and a host of other stuff.
kind regards, JonahTheScientist
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Dave Jensen <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.;
Sorry Jonah,
None of your examples meet the requirements (repeatable, falsifiable...) of SCIENTIFIC PROOF. What is your best proof, verified by the scientific method? Just one, please.
David
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JonahTheScientist:
If yours is not opinion, then explain to me in detail why the following experiment, one that you can do for yourself, is not (repeatable, falsifiable...).
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Dave Jensen <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.;
"500 grams of weight" --- ?
What experiment? Who did it? When? Precise object of weight? I smell Scientism...
Holes in the spinning ball are plentiful, but the clever synonym for magic (gravity) keeps the water from spilling out.
Side note - do you believe in the tooth fairy?
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JonahTheScientist:
It seems that you don't know how to read, and your comprehension of the written word is nil.
Measure how much a 500-gram standard weight weighs, at different locations on the Earth, north and south.
Due to the rotation of the Earth centrifugal acceleration will change how how much that same 500-gram piece actually weighs.
Should we classify you as a - mentally incompetent or stubbornly delirious flat Earth supporter?
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Dave Jensen <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.;
Do you understand the difference between real and hypothetical? I'm an earther who understands primary knowledge. YOU seem to be a spinning baller, full of hypothetical and theoretical conviction. How did you come to beLIEve in a spinning oblate spheroid?
"500 grams of weight" still has me laughing!! What a precise, descriptive "proof" you have for your greatest sign we live on a spinning ball with water stuck to it.... Lol. Lol...
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JonahTheScientist:
Mr. Dave Jenson,
It's obvious that you are ignorant about centrifugal acceleration and what the properties of a spinning globe are. As such, you are qualified to talk about nothing.
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Dave Jensen <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.;
Sure sounds like you have a tremendous amount of faith in "qualified" experts. Have you ever listened to your own inner sense of reason? Your primary knowledge says you are stationary, but you choose to ignore your own senses and the scientific method in exchange for Scientism or theoretical/hypothetical rubbish.
You are right, I'm not qualified to speak with those who take giant leaps of faith to reach for manufactured conclusions. I didn't forget that after days of email to and fro... You still never provided an inkling of PROOF (real experiment), Mr. Spinning Baller.
Happy Thanksgiving!
David
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Dave Jensen <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.;
Your "proof" is writing numbers, connecting them with diagrams, which coalesce around this theory you hold with conviction. It's like asking NASA for a picture or full view of earth from a live stream via ISS. It's all fake. Good luck with your BEST proof. You'll never convince any thinking human being with nonsense. You could purchase a "level" from your nearest hardware store...
Thank you for your, not so cordial, dialogue Mr. spinning Baller. Have a nice life on the spinning ball with water stuck to ------- brought to YOU by the Holy Roman Empire. In Latin, "Catholic" means "universal," but people like you don't how truly Catholic they are. One day you'll reaLIES how much FAITH you put in the PREISTS of SCIENTISM.
Farewell, Mr. Spinning BALLER
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Discussion at - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7ipUKERU0tzYFxALJBli4A/discussion
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kind regards, JonahTheScientist
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